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2:26 pm
December 31, 2009
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J.Durkin
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What up…
I'm new to this forum and new to off-roading. If you haven't gotten a chance to read my introduction..I"ll give you a quick overview. Always loved Jeep's…bought two with the intent to hook em' up but never had the cash…time..nor experience. I bought my third recently and have reached a point in life where things have slowed down enough to pursue this hobby full scale…
Over the past 12 years or so…I was fully engulfed in everything "two-wheeled" and spent all my time…energy..and money..trying to build bigger and badder bikes or motos with the hopes of pulling that next big trick. I've broken enough bones for a small village and would still be riding but getting up after a fall is starting to be a lot harder…as is waking up and moving each morning.
Over the course of many years I've acquired so much knowledge in the three sports (bmx, downhill mtb, and moto) and when a driven/motivate newb would come to that community…I could fill their head with everything they need to know and a lot they don't..
If you got a sec…I'd like to pick your brains…
What are the top tips…words of advice…priceless info…or whatever…that you've acquired in the world of 4x4 that were your "a-ha" moments…or something you feel all new-comers should know to be better equipped for the journey…in terms of building rigs…driving on the trail…or mistakes you made that you'd steer others away from?!
Thanks a lot.
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5:33 pm
December 31, 2009
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Post edited 5:34 pm – December 31, 2009 by BP
Get out and do it.
Start with your rig as is. Learn it, wheel it. This will teach you how to pick lines and not rely on lockers and a rig that is built past your capacity and experience.
Next build to suit. You'll learn over time that there is no "one right way" to do things. Wheel, and see what you feel needs to be changed.
I plan to hit the Cliffs on the 23rd. What kind of Jeep do you have?
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5:54 pm
December 31, 2009
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J.Durkin
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Yeah…I feel that.
I understand what you're saying…I was looking for trivial knowledge acquired along the way…(i.e. don't buy __________parts or the first upgrade you should consider or not consider is… or if I could have know one thing 5 years ago about wheelin I would have…) type thing.
I have a yj a tj and a cj.
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6:42 pm
December 31, 2009
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This is what is required for GLJT, but also pretty much everyone else.
http://www.gljt.org/modules.ph…..amp;t=1933
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7:12 pm
December 31, 2009
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bittergenius
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Those are great must have's when hitting the trail. DDO recommends the same equipment.
As for "ah-ha" moments, one of mine is that you will always want to go bigger better. So I would get yourself a build plan. I always have a working list of things I want to do to my XJ. As I do them, I cross them off the list. Many mods you may want may not work with mods you have already done, so always keep that in mind. You dont want to waste money.
Also, there are many things you dont want to go cheap on, like tires. Do em right the first time. DONT BUY BFG ALL-TERRAINS! Haha.
-Tim
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2:28 pm
January 1, 2010
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what do the other 2 rigs look like. The cj looks ready. basic saftey requirements.
I have heard alot about not having lockers first. If you already have them dont worry. In my opinion alot of guys say its better to be open first but they usually just stand on the skinny pedal a whole lot more and chalk it up as technique.
There are basic things usually covered in drivers meetings.
1. 1 guy threw an obstacle at a time same goes for up and down hills.
2. obviously you are going to be watching the guy in front of you. But it is key to watch the guy behind you. If everyone watches behind them then no one gets left in a pickle.
3. There is no pressure to do anything to your rig that you dont want to. In the end you alone are responsible for what you do there is always usually a bypass
4. When entering mudd or water. You want to enter slowly as to not create a surge into your engine compartment.
5. Always want to pick a line straight up or down a hill…sideways is bad. and bouncing when climbing has bad results as well.
just a few off the top of my head. Nothing beats on the trail experience
When it comes to your rigs …it is always best to try and do your own work yourself. It gives you a true understanding of what it takes to fix it when on the trail and gives a better understanding of how it works in general.
I am a yj guy…really intereasted in what yours looks like
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12:05 pm
January 2, 2010
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J.Durkin
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Post edited 12:07 pm – January 2, 2010 by J.Durkin
The yj is bone stock minus the snow plow setup. When I first got that (a long time ago) it was my goal to deck it out…but realized quick that doing so wasn't something you could do half-heartedly and on a teenager in college budget. Not much of a story to tell there.
I bought the tj liking the idea of independent suspension and thinking that because it came from the factory with tube bumpers and 30X9.50's that it would be more capable on the trail stock and satisfy my urge to want a lifted rig on wheels. Had a ton of fun at Badlands and was pretty impressed by what it was able to handle…but still not quite there.
The CJ will hopefully be the start of many things to come….especially if I get out and wheel with some cool people on a regular basis. I've spent the last week reading the service manual and learning what every component does and how much it costs to fix. I must say I'm having a blast just reading about the thing. Can't wait to get it out.
Thanks for the tips…trying to soak up as much as possible from all sources.
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12:10 pm
January 2, 2010
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J.Durkin
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bittergenius said:
DONT BUY BFG ALL-TERRAINS! Haha.
-Tim
Funny you say that…I just bought BFG A/T's and plan on picking them up in a few days. I needed something to put on that would allow me to putt around town without ruining my boggers. I decided to just keep them for the trail.
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11:34 pm
January 2, 2010
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TJs do not have an independent suspension, they have a coil suspension but still use solid axles.
Does your CJ have a stock axle setup? The first thing I would recommend doing before ever putting it on a trail is to remove your AMC20 2 piece axle shafts and swaping in solid axle shafts(Find out if the stock Narrow Track axles were swapped out for the Wide Tracks.) If you need to do this let me know, I may still know where a used set it laying around.
You can be given a lot of advice on any board from a wealth of communitive knowledge, but almost everything is situational. Keep an open mind is the most important, if someone tells you to do something and a week/month/year/or decade someone comes to you and tells you it is wrong, and have a solid reason for it, don't cast it out saying "Well I haven't have an issue yet", it's usually when it jumps up and bites you.
This is a dangerous sport by nature, and all we can do is our best to avoid anything from happening. When something does, it is then our job to try to correct it as safe as possible. What you see on "YouTube" is typically not something you should really try.
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1:49 pm
January 3, 2010
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J.Durkin
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From what I understand they have been. Cause all the reading I did on the Jeep boards pointed out the weakest link of most Jeeps (Dana 30/35) and in my case even less. I asked if he upgraded them and on the spec list I recieved…it says that they are upgraded (but not chromoly) just the heavier duty spindle/shafts…(not sure if this is what you're talking about.
My buddy dislikes the axles too..and is looking for some Scout axles to make the swap…I guess we'll see what we can find for cheap.
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2:11 pm
January 4, 2010
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The stock AMC20 in CJs (Not the one in MJs) had 2 piece shafts on either side of the axle held together with a nut. If that nut spins off, you will lose the shaft.
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